Precrime Arrest: the “Proactive Approach”

Saturday, March 13, 2010
Posted in category police state

In Oregon, a disgruntled government employee who was placed on leave was arrested for legally buying guns. He was taken into custody by a team of SWAT soldiers wearing the standard military garb, and he was sent in for a mental health evaluation. The arrest was justified by “concern” on the part of the Oregon police state. In fact, they were “extremely concerned” the man might retaliate against his government employers. Again, the “concern ” was reason enough for arrest and a mental evaluation. Now ask yourself why the state keeps trying to grow its intrusive gun registration laws.

Are those halogen headlights on his ballistic shield? Indeed.

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6 Responses to Precrime Arrest: the “Proactive Approach”

  1. Mitzelplik says:

    March 13th, 2010 at 8:18 am

    He was NOT arrested. Because he was NOT charged. He was tricked (lied to) to come out of his house by the police who said they didn’t want to cuff him; just talk. They cuffed him. They were also spying on him at his home since 9pm the previous evening. He was taken in for “medical evaluation”, to make sure he was of stable mind. He passed the exam in a couple hours. He asked for his guns back and was told it was going to be a few weeks or more. He also owned a few guns before the incident occurred (registered and not a first time buyer). As someone on a local firearms forum pointed out, when you are detained for medical evaluation, you have no rights. You are not charged, you don’t get access to a lawyer, you can’t leave without their approval and it stays on your record forever including when you apply to buy firearms again. Also if you apply for a job. It’s been hypothesized that the goal of this exercise was to set precedent with a court case in order to deny people firearms do to mental health records. I believe this was introduced in some bill that went through federal legislation. Wisconsin has passed a law similar themselves.

    This would be a good story to follow up on and keep publicizing Karen. It’s gotten a big spotlight on it nationally in a short amount of time. I bet it’s not working out like they planned.

  2. Michael says:

    March 13th, 2010 at 9:12 am

    A similar story played out in a Boston suburb last month. A Manchester-by-the-Sea man was arrested in February for possessing “infernal” devices which is a police code word for a weapon that us Mundanes can’t be trusted with (e.g. in Massachusetts, even License to Carry holders can’t possess police batons and Tasers, etc.)

    *No threats were made against anybody*. The man that was arrested had a “stockpile” of 20 firearms, knives and non-perishable food items (Oh the horror!) He possessed an LTC, which is very difficult to obtain in Massachusetts. I guess the fly in the ointment was the collapsible batons and a tear gas grenade.

    Basically, Gregory Girard made the poor decision of telling his estranged wife of his plans to prepare for total economic collapse. Another media report suggested that Girard’s estranged wife informed the police.

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  3. Jeannie Queenie says:

    March 13th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

    Just because this guy worked for the Dept of Transportation, doesn’t mean that he couldn’t end up going POstal, does it?
    Then again, maybe the guy isn’t mental, but just woke up to what his employer is really about…and how, when you work for uncle sam, you might get slammed, rammed and damned. Or maybe, shnooked, booked and fooked.
    Think about it…those who generally work for the govt are those who are afraid to get off the porch and run with the big dogs. They are looking for security even if it means selling their soul. Now that he lost his job and can’t stay on the porch anymore like a good little dog and wait for master to throw him a bone, he has to forage for himself. But years of non-risk taking and all those govt guarantees probably have left him scared about getting off the porch and running with the big dogs. And this is where the guns come in…the sheer fear that the end is near and the big dogs might gobble him up, hence the big guns! Then again, maybe the guy is just worried about his future food supply and knows if he wants grub, he needs to aim straight.

  4. cousin lucky says:

    March 13th, 2010 at 7:11 pm

    I used to read about such things happening in the U.S.S.R. and I used to pity the people that had to endure an oppressive government like that!! Our country is headed down that very same path at ever increasing speed!

    My only salvation is my age of 65!! I will not have to be a witness to the destruction of this country for very much longer!
    What A Disgrace America Has Become!!! You Betcha!!!!

  5. Michael says:

    March 14th, 2010 at 11:20 am

    No due process = tyranny.

    I agree with cousin lucky. This nation is quickly becoming a total police state. How do we reverse this ominous trend?

  6. clark says:

    March 15th, 2010 at 12:08 am

    “How do we reverse this ominous trend?”

    “We” don’t… it can only burn itself out.

    Jeannie Queenie, the way you write, it comes across as if you don’t know what preppers are and what they expect,… many don’t have a clue. SHTF

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