On “Killing a 12-Year-Old” and Harper Woods

Wednesday, October 13, 2010
Posted in category Self-Defense

This story has got people in a tizzy just hours after I posted it, so it must be good. Lew Rockwell wants to run it on LewRockwell.com – so tomorrow a modified version will run.

People from Harper Woods are gathering to drop comments on my blog. Go ahead, I say, but one commenter blew it and called me an “outsider.” This is from a Harper Woods resident who probably doesn’t do much more than live in her home, attend crime watch/community meetings, and go shopping.

I’m not an outsider. I was born here. I grew up here. I still live here. (I even added that to my blog lest folks presume I’m an “outsider.”) I work here. I observe here. I adventure here. I crawl into the bowels of this city and metro area like few other people do.

People who know what I am about know the kind of stuff I do. I have biked all over every inch of this area, including the city (Detroit), alone, as the sun sets at night. I am an adventure/urban cyclist, not a lycra-clad racing-only weenie (though I used to be a bit of that). I am an avid photographer (here’s my photography page, in process). I am a constant observer, and I take photos and observe wherever I go, which is why I write about these things – topics that other people won’t touch.

I can’t image how this article will get zipped around from neighbor to neighbor in Harper Woods, as people can’t stand to have the bad people from within and outside of their community criticized for destroying it. Really? Why?

On another note, see Billy Beck’s link back to my story and his comments. I can only imagine how many people – especially Oprahized females – would go apeshit over such comments. So brazen, so harsh, so churlish, they will say. I see absolutely nothing in these remarks that make me bat an eyelash. Some “kids” kill nowadays, and some of us don’t believe in making age distinctions with a madman who is lording a gun over us. Reality sucks sometimes, doesn’t it?

UPDATE: Correction: the blog-turned-article will appear on LewRockwell.com on the weekend edition (October 16-17), and is drastically changed (added to) and longer than the original blog post.

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10 Responses to On “Killing a 12-Year-Old” and Harper Woods

  1. Susan Uhl says:

    October 13th, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    I’m the one who referred to you as an “outsider.” No, I don’t spend my days watching Oprah or shopping. Like most in this community, I work full time, take care of my family and try to help out in the community where I can. I took exception to your piece because the majority of the crimes committed in our city are not being committed by residents. Like most, I will criticize those in our town who want to destroy it. Our town has been hit hard by this recession, we do have vacant homes and there is crime. But I doubt that there is a community anywhere in this country where you won’t find foreclosed homes and an increase in crime. I think the incident that you’re writing of is a sad example of the lack of personal responsibility and the lack of humanity existing everywhere. I am, in no way, trying to excuse the actions of these kids. But that incident doesn’t define our city. It doesn’t reflect the values and the morals of the people I know that live here. So yes, I take exception to your writing because I don’t believe that it adequately reflects the number of people who are involved, who do care and who will continue to fight for our community.

  2. Karen De Coster says:

    October 13th, 2010 at 7:46 pm

    Susan – no one said “the residents are committing the crimes in HW.” I know I didn’t. Did anyone else? Note my reference to where HW borders (hint, hint). But that does not change a thing concerning what has actually happened to Harper Woods. I don’t care who is “fighting for your community.” That does not negate the fact that HW has been overrun by trash: some residents (many now foreclosed), most from Detroit. Your home values are rock bottom if and when a home can be sold there. That describes much of the Detroit area, but HW sits right up next to Detroit, making it a perfect place to commit crimes and run South.

  3. clark says:

    October 13th, 2010 at 9:38 pm

    Just like in Argentina, how about that.

    Sad to say, Let Live and Let Die.

    As the economy gets destroyed by the PTB, this same shit’s gonna happen everywhere else in the smaller towns in flyover country. I think it’s better to know ahead of time what you will and won’t do.

    Descriptions like this help people to decide.

    If it was me, and the criminal was a pretty teen aged girl instead of a male, I think I might be dead. Tough call, really. Because in places like Argentina the teen aged girls are quite often the most vicious and deadly un-remorseful criminals, or so I’ve read from those who’ve experienced such things.

  4. Ken Poynter says:

    October 14th, 2010 at 10:07 am

    Dear Karen,

    Harper Woods is not the rat drop city that you think it is. I say this as one of the longest residents of this fine city. My parents moved here in the 40’s when it was still Gratiot Township. Harper Woods is my kind of town. Some crime creeps in but that happens everywhere and when it happens here they are caught just like this young man who was caught by our fine police department and he was 15 years old not 12. Harper Woods has an excellent city government that has done their very best to maintain city services that are second to none in spite of dwindling revenues. I would be happy to meet with you personally and take you on a tour of this fine city perhaps then you can write a more positive article.

  5. Karen De Coster says:

    October 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Ken, I am in Harper Woods all the time – I live right close by, and my family lives there. I don’t need a “tour” of Harper Woods! LoL. Get over my two paragraphs about Harper Woods.

  6. Karen De Coster says:

    October 14th, 2010 at 3:12 pm

    Ken, I am in Harper Woods all the time – I live right close by, and my family lives there. I don’t need a “tour” of Harper Woods! LoL. Get over my two paragraphs about Harper Woods.

  7. M. Terry says:

    October 14th, 2010 at 5:38 pm

  8. Scott From Folsom, CA says:

    October 16th, 2010 at 2:15 am

    Doesn’t matter whether the perp is a local or an “outsider,” he or she is directly threatening your life. You can choose one of two courses; actively defend yourself or take your chances by surrendering and hoping the perp; 1) doesn’t panic and blow you away, 2) hope he isn’t so wasted on drugs he mishandles his weapon and blows you away, or 3) the perp decides to waste you anyway. This whole Liberal schtick about doing what the perp wants to stay alive is, unfortunately, lethally flawed. If more people fought back, especially when effectively armed, it would give violence-prone criminals pause. Perusal of police records proves that, in areas where an increased number of people have and are willing to use legally concealed weapons, gun-related violent crime drops. The moral; FIGHT BACK!! SHOOT BACK!! You might die in the process, but you can at least do what you can to remove the perp from the gene pool, and thus prevent him from committing another crime.

  9. Brian Brady says:

    October 16th, 2010 at 2:50 am


    This post is entirely unnecessary and the preceding post is wholly necessary. Maybe your characterization of Harper Woods was harsh, maybe it wasn’t. It doesn’t matter because every town in America is Harper Woods.

    God help us if mob rule happens in this country but, if it does, we may find ourselves as the only defense between our home and a pack of armed tweens. Then what?

    I suppose this post was a nice olive branch for your neighbors but they should be thanking you for the last one. I am.

  10. Steven says:

    October 16th, 2010 at 5:33 pm

    I would shoot anyone who points a gun at me and threatens my life. I don’t care about their age, race, gender, or anything else. In my humble opinion those who would not are simply fools. And if they find themselves in said situation will probably be dead fools. Go along with the criminals till you can get to your weapon then shoot them without hesitation. For those of you think the police are going to help you; you best think again.

    Yes you may, unbelievably, face charges for defending yourself in today’s whacked out political climate but remember; it is better to tried by 12 than carried by 6.

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