Men, Open Thy Wallet

Thursday, November 5, 2009
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Am I the only one that gets pissed about this shit? Sportscaster Jim Nantz and his wife agreed upon a mutual divorce, after years of a no-marriage, and she walks away a millionaire. She gets $916,000 per year in child support and alimony, part of the current value of his pension, and she stays on as beneficiary of his $3 million life insurance policy. He must also pay for her membership (up to $70k) in a “country club of her choice.” Well lordy! We can’t have her giving up the country club-socialite lifestyle she is accustomed to living.

Guys, if you plan on building a successful career and making lots of dough, don’t get married. The courts, in terms of your children and your money, have pegged you as worthy of all blame. Additionally, you’ll be plundered to prop up the pipe dreams of your former spouse, and you’ll never shed that ‘responsibility’ for a spouse who the courts will determine has the right to live your lifestyle, even after you aren’t there to voluntarily provide it.

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17 Responses to Men, Open Thy Wallet

  1. Mark says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 11:43 am

    Are you sure this anecdote reflects a general trend? I thought most women divorced with children tying them down end up pretty near poverty.

  2. Dean says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 12:55 pm

    One of the most egregious examples of alimony abuse I remember was when Lou Diamond Phillips had to pay his ex-wife, Julie Cypher, alimony after she left him to shack up with Melissa Etheridge in 1990. Neither Etheridge nor Cypher were hurting financially. The state just loves to kick a man when he’s down.

  3. Steve Haag says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm

    Maybe it’s the cynic in me – but I’m happily content not to have traipsed down the aisle of holy matrimony. It may sound terrible – but I have little positive to say about american women. I don’t consider myself a mysogynist – just a realist. There is an edge to women in this country that is born and bred at the knee of the propagandistic feminist culture that infects every aspect of life in one way or the other. From their earliest moments on the planet through the incessant feminist indoctrination they receive in school and popular culture and then right into adulthood – women know nothing other than the bizzaro, upside down, Orwellian belief system that is drilled into the deepest levels of their mind. The crippling hell of it for those of us who might consider companionship with the ‘fairer’ sex is that these characteristics are often not revealed until it is too late. Many times – the contamination in their minds doesn’t express itself overtly – but rather – in subtle – almost unrecognizable (by men!) ways especially at first. After all – nobody reads the tea leaves when they’re in love. All they know is that they’re in love. The hell comes later when all of the feminist pablum that is woven so deeply into her psyche throughout life is revealed fully. That’s when you say goodbye to the house, half of your 401K and, generally, your standard of living. I long for a simpler day when it was OK for men and women to be true to their nature without having an elitist vision of a ‘brave new world’ imposed upon them.

  4. cousin lucky says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 3:02 pm

    One of the advantages of being old and poor is never having to worry about anybody coming after something that I do not have. The bars and taverns of America are filled with men who have been castrated by the I.R.S and/or an ex wife! During my 65 years many men that I knew killed themselves over the loss of an unworthy female. It is sad, very sad, but unfortunately the way that it is!!!

  5. clark says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 9:41 pm

    What you’re saying is, a marriage (or even common law marriage) in America is between a man, a woman, and the government, with the government as the head, the decider, eeGads, as a god on earth where upon a person, even single people, things go so far as a person doesn’t own their own body parts and soon, if not already,… Oh I don’t even wanna go there.

  6. Not Sure says:

    November 5th, 2009 at 11:19 pm

    “It may sound terrible – but I have little positive to say about american women. I don’t consider myself a mysogynist – just a realist. There is an edge to women in this country that is born and bred at the knee of the propagandistic feminist culture that infects every aspect of life in one way or the other. From their earliest moments on the planet through the incessant feminist indoctrination they receive in school and popular culture and then right into adulthood – women know nothing other than the bizzaro, upside down, Orwellian belief system that is drilled into the deepest levels of their mind.”Fred Reed? Is that you?

  7. Not Sure says:

    November 6th, 2009 at 12:46 am

    Forgot the link (and please excuse the formatting- I’m not sure how to make paragraphs here)-
    “Now, you might well wonder, why are American women carrying the Chip? Practically, it doesn’t matter: They do carry it, and will continue. Still, it is partly because from birth they are fed the notion that they have been oppressed, battered, cheated, deprived, harassed, used as sex objects, not used as sex objects, on and on. Being rational, you are perhaps inclined to point out that never has a female population been less any of these things, but don’t bother. It will have no effect. The Chip is an emotional artifact to which they respond emotionally.”

    http://www.fredoneverything.net/Reimer.shtml

  8. Jeannie Queenie says:

    November 6th, 2009 at 1:11 am

    Steve, you’ve got it down pat buddie….truer words were never spoken. I look at females today and am appalled at what I see, how they act, what they demand and how little they give…to anyone. Their entitlement mentalities sicken me.I often wonder if this is why the arabs/muslims detest us so and why terror is ramping up more and more. During the sixties, I witnessed all these broads who were NOT going to be tied down to a home and kids..and so they went out to work…often at not so great jobs at no so great pay, where they needed to buy a car to get to work and then have sitters for the kids…and buy fast food for they didn’t want to cook, and the list goes on and on. I laughed as I learned that after putting their hubbies in a higher tax bracket, paying for daycare, and another auto/insurance, gas/upkeep, a career wardrobe and more hair salon appts, in many cases they were in the red by having a job…and then the costs of not having a mother there when the kids got home…a frazzled women who has no interest in a great time in the sack (i’m too tired) and a simmering anger that she is stuck with not just ONE JOB, but three, one of which is paid, but the other two are not. I hear the bitching all the time, the lamenting that ‘he doesn’t do anything in the house’. Long story short, I’ve witnessed many women not wanting to be women, either in the kitchen or the bedroom, much to the distress of american men. I came east 20 years ago, and often feel viewed with suspicion in the land of the New England feminista. The more I get to know about them the more I understand why the Salem Witch Trials took place….lots of nasty chicks out here, not to mention classless and sexless. I get all these wierd looks for I don’t dig the straight hair, no makeup look and as an artist, have a need for beauty in my life, be it my home, my body or my makeup, or dressing with style, even designing my own clothes for the stuff out there is so lackluster. Then, being a great cook has brought its own miseries too…all the years I lived in Michigan and hosted fabulous dinner parties, all I ever heard was something like this, “I am sorry Jean, but I can’t match what you do for dinners”. This meant being rarely invited for a reciprocal dinner out. It’s like this, even if all you can do is cook a burger, throw some chips and pickles on a plate, for crying out loud, it needn’t be gourmet, but I like to get out of the house on occasion too. So between their lazy excuses and a now-ex who complained if the lemon meringue pie I made wasn’t apple, or the apple wasn’t pumpkin, or the pumpkin wasn’t rhubarb, or the rhubarb wasn’t banana creme, etc, the day came when I shut down in those depts of inviting folks for dinner or ever baking another pie for an ungrateful husband. So Steve, it really is a two way street…yes, there are a lot of dizzy gals out there who refuse to grow up, but then too, there are moronic men who don’t appreciate what they have until it’s too late. And oh, if you think all women end up like the gals in the stories above, think again, some of us after 27 years of marriage ending in divorce, don’t get a single penny, even if you were the best gal around, the best cook, the best wife/mother, the best homemaker, the most well read and continued working for a degree in between five babies and nine moves in 27 years, and kept yourself looking good and being interesting, one fact remains Steve, there are narcissists in both sexes who will always be on the take and who will use and abuse for their own purposes, and then discard you..either way, it is a tragedy be it a gal doing it to her husband, or a guy doing it to the gal, especially if he was the envy of other men who dreamt of having a wife like his. So, like Karen said above about getting pissed about this shit of women leeching off a guy, there is the flip side of that coin…and sadly in my case, I know that I did a helluva lot more than the gals mentioned above and I got nada, zero, zilch..meaning there is no justice in the this world, right?

  9. John and Dagny Galt says:

    November 6th, 2009 at 8:57 am

    Very good post and very good comments!

    Keep up the great work of smashing the illusions of the GUNvernment!

    Sincerely,
    John and Dagny Galt
    Atlas Shrugged, Owner’s Manual For The Universe!(tm)

    http://www.starvingthemonkeys.com/

    http://voluntaryist.com/fundamentals/introduction.php

    .

  10. Richie says:

    November 6th, 2009 at 9:16 am

    Such a contradiction. Feminists love to boast about independence from a man, and then when they finally get it, they need the man to “support” them.

  11. Steve Haag says:

    November 7th, 2009 at 10:59 am

    Jeannie – You made good points – and men should not be absolved of guilt in the whole mess that interpersonal relationships have become these days.

  12. Shannon says:

    November 9th, 2009 at 2:40 am

    I have to say I agree with Karen that the system leans in favor of women more often than not. Jeannie, your story is so sad but not uncommon. I too, get a lot of looks for applying makeup, wearing a skirt and blouse and showing feminine appeal. It is almost regarded as vanity by some, yet it is fine and dandy for them to go out wearing their ratty sweat pants and tank tops.

    Overall, the feminist propaganda that is drilled into women’s heads from the cradle leads to a big chip on the shoulder of many a women who have such a negative prejudice toward men, they can but only fail in the relationship of marriage. Being considered the “weaker sex” being shown general chivalry is just not acceptable. They need to be chief, cook and bottle washer and career woman and soccer mom. There is no order or balance. The outrageous alimony payments make me wonder how some of these guys make ends meet after paying their ex-spouses.

  13. Robin says:

    November 9th, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Richie writes: “Such a contradiction. Feminists love to boast about independence from a man, and then when they finally get it, they need the man to “support” them.” What feminists really want is to be absolved from any responsibility for their actions. You’ll notice the “support” they receive from their plundered ex-husbands comes without any reciprocal obligations. But their actions have consequences nonetheless, e.g., the so-called “marriage strike” by men who refuse to commit financial suicide by wedding these reprobate harridans. (My wife is a sweet, feminine woman. I was almost shocked when I met her, there being so few of her kind left in America.)

  14. Screamin' Ruffed Grouse says:

    November 10th, 2009 at 4:23 pm

    some of us after 27 years of marriage ending in divorce, don’t get a single penny, even if you were the best gal around, the best cook, the best wife/mother, the best homemaker, the most well read… kept yourself looking good and being interesting… there are narcissists in both sexes … he was the envy of other men who dreamt of having a wife like his.

    Narcissists in both sexes, huh? You don’t say.

  15. Jeannie Queenie says:

    November 12th, 2009 at 10:49 am

    “Narcissists in both sexes–
    You don’t say”. Sounds like sexist, sad screaming grouse is a MCP, and what’s worse than a Male Chauvinist Pig? A woman who won’t do what she’s told, and has the audacity to feel good about herself after a life of abuse/attack/criticism by a jerk.

    Why is a misogynist guy attracted to the grouse?…easy one…he loves the bird taking his territory with a maddening, mechanical thump, thump noise of a NON musical bird who imitates grumpy’s mechanical relationships with women. Feeling he must be top dog 24/7, he allows no woman to dare to feel good about herself. An image is conjured of screaming riffed grouse as a dismal male porn addict who can’t relate to real women so he tramps around in the woods waiting for the chance to hear the wings fluttering and then, BAM, he takes his shot feeling ‘oh so victorious’ especialy if he finds out birdie is a female. He especially loves her screams of pain. My heart goes out to you screaming riffed grouse. Obviously your mechanical thump, thump will never bring singing gorgeous birds into your territory. So sad that you prefer a heartless, non-empathic mechanical gal like yourself.

  16. Screamin' Ruffed Grouse says:

    November 13th, 2009 at 7:26 pm

    Oh my God, that was awesome. Queenie girl, you have no idea how much you just improved my day.

    Well, since you are obviously so insightful and gifted that you can discern everything there is to know about my psyche, my attitude toward women, my treatment of women, the nature of my relationships with women and the types of women involved in said relationships, all from three little words on a screen, I suppose there’s really nothing else to say.

    But what the hell, I’ll take a crack at it anyhow. Let’s start with this little gem of wild speculation:

    An image is conjured of screaming riffed grouse as a dismal male porn addict who can’t relate to real women so he tramps around in the woods waiting for the chance to hear the wings fluttering and then, BAM, he takes his shot feeling ‘oh so victorious’ especialy if he finds out birdie is a female.

    Wow. Apparently, I’m not only a chauvinist pig, but I’m also an outdoorsman. Seriously though, that is really detailed and specific. I can only wonder what grand scene you would have concocted had I written an entire sentence. You must have quite an imagination. That’s actually something I really like in a woman. Of course, it also helps if she also has the ability to distinguish it from reality, and a decent modicum of emotional stability. You appear to be lacking in both of those areas.

    Now don’t get me wrong, I find it neither odd nor offensive that you paint a mental image of me- however “out there”- based on a thread posting. We all do that. Again though, I do find it interesting that you imagine so much, since I gave you so little to go on. You, on the other hand, have now given me all sorts of material on which to base my image of you. And that image, from your initial posting to your response to mine, has changed dramatically.

    Reading your initial post, I at first just saw you as someone presenting the other side of the divorce/relationship coin. I can in fact empathize with that, as I have known several women, family members and a friends, who have indeed been undervalued, abused, denigrated, and worse by SOBs who eventually left them with nothing but a kid, or kids, to raise all by themselves. I have zero respect for these men and their type, so on that front I was right there with you.

    But as your post goes on, you delve almost obsessively into a litany of completely subjective opinions of just how awesome you are in every way. You’re such a great cook, your dinner parties are “fabulous,” indeed no one can match them. You’re so well read, so beautiful, yadda yadda yadda, et. al.. You even go so far as to say that men around you and your husband “dreamt” of having a wife like you. Now that, my friend, is a pretty damned big assumption. Unless of course all these envious men were actually coming up and telling you this; but since few men are so boorish as to say such things to another man’s wife, even in Michigan, I doubt it.

    So the image I formed of you was of a woman who is remarkably self absorbed, who is at heart unquestioningly certain of not only her own greatness but also of her inherent superiority to everyone else in all things, who believes that any conflict or disagreement must be the result of someone else’s inferiority, and genuinely can’t understand why other people don’t see all of this. I believe the word for such a person is “narcissist.”

    Of course the fact that you were laying all this out in an effort to show what a narcissistic boob your ex-husband was, was so deliciously rife with irony that I laughed out loud. Hence my smartass post, and those three little words that got you so upset (which, by the way, I did not see coming).

    But, even uber-narcissists have some good qualities. They’re usually very hard workers in everything they do. They want the achievement to go with their hyper-inflated egos. As such they are usually very competent, and very confident. I had no doubt all these traits applied to you as well. And I was quite sure you had no problem mustering up the audacity (your word, not mine) to feel good about yourself. And, well, more power to ya, I thought.

    But after reading your second post, I am now quite sure that I was very, very wrong.

    You see, the woman I envisioned from your first post, would never have written your second. The confident, self-absorbed narcissist would have most likely ignored my little musing, and dismissed it as irrelevant tripe from some goof who isn’t worth her time or on her level (I mean after all, who is?). At most, she might have fired some pithy, smartass quip back at me. Or maybe, just maybe, if she had a sense of humor, she might have spotted the same irony I was highlighting and possibly gotten a chuckle out of it herself.

    But your reply was nasty, vindictive, and mean. Full of wild hyperbole and baseless conjecture about my character. In short, as far as I can tell, you were lashing out at me, as one does when hurt. But that’s the thing: there’s absolutely nothing in that post that could be remotely construed as hurtful, and certainly not deliberately so. From that post, I reckon a reasonable person could conclude that I was instigative, perhaps antagonistic, or maybe even just a straight up sarcastic prick (none of which would be far from the truth). But to come up with the profile you did? To have all that fill your head just from those three little words? That there requires some pre-existing issues, methinks.

    You manage to construe, from nothing, that I am misogynistic and violent, and that this stems from some need to be “top dog 24/7,” which I take to be an accusation of insecurity. And I think that is what this is really all about. Whereas your first post, left by itself, paints a picture of the confident, narcissistic Woman A, your second paints something very different: a hurt, uncertain and highly insecure Woman B. Furthermore, when the two posts are taken together, they much more support the image of Woman B; even all the bravado from the first post. Instead of sounding like you need everyone else to know how awesome you are, you sound like you are trying to convince yourself of it. And you write as if I have all these same traits, even though there is no basis for that assumption. I believe the psychiatric term is “projection.”

    For your sake, I really do hope this is all just an aberration that gave me a false impression of you. Either way, I wish you the best and hope you find happiness. You say your “heart goes out” to me, which I take to be a statement of pity. This is unnecessary. A simple prayer will suffice, if you so desire. I’ll do the same, regardless.

    This is the last I intend to write on this matter. My objective here is not to hurt you, anger you or argue with you (for instance, you’ll notice I didn’t waste my time defending against your absurd statements about me). I simply did for you the same thing you did for me: wrote out the image I formed of you, based on your posts. Sorry about the exceptional length of this post, but like I said: you gave me a lot more to go on than I gave you.

  17. Screamin' Ruffed Grouse says:

    November 13th, 2009 at 7:27 pm

    Oh yeah, there is one more thing I need to address before I leave: your positively comical over-analysis of my screen handle.

    Here is everything I know about the Ruffed Grouse: it’s small, weak, butt ugly, completely non-threatening to anything bigger than an insect, and for some reason, it’s the official state bird of Pennsylvania. States like Maryland and Kentucky have birds of beauty, like the Oriole and the Cardinal. Others have birds of size, power and majesty, like Louisiana’s Brown Pelican or the union’s Bald Eagle. Even Delaware’s Blue Hen appears tough enough not to be messed with. But not PA. Nope, we got the goddamned Ruffed Grouse.

    So the “Screamin’ Ruffed Grouse” is nothing more than a mildly humorous play on “Screamin’ Eagle,” or the like. That’s really all it is.

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