Libertarians for Conscription

Monday, September 9, 2013
Posted in category War

From Cato, of course. This post at Cato, “The Libertarian Case for National Military Service,” reads like satire, but alas, it is not. The author actually writes “freedom isn’t free,” and he thinks that libertarians shouldn’t recoil from the notion of mandatory military service because serving your government masters can be a “pillar of freedom” rather than a coercive and unjust oppression.

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8 Responses to Libertarians for Conscription

  1. Wade says:

    September 9th, 2013 at 10:22 pm

    wait a minute now, so serving our statist, NWO masters is a “pillar of freedom”? yep, and “ignorance is strength”, “truth is treason”, and “war is peace”…I think that we should attack Syria immediately, and put Obama, Kerry, McCain, and Hillary on the front line to lead the charge…but I think that I’ll hunker down in my bunker and watch the proceedings!

  2. George says:

    September 11th, 2013 at 8:35 am

    Madness. Possibly satire or an Onion article?

  3. James Redford says:

    September 11th, 2013 at 2:30 pm

    Pascal-Emmanuel Gobry’s aforecited article is extremely muddleheaded. Gobry keeps using the word “libertarian” without ever defining what he means by the word, while attributing positions to it that are antipodal to what the leading libertarian theorists–particularly Profs. Murray N. Rothbard (known by the sobriquets “Mr. Libertarian” and, while he was alive, “The Greatest Living Enemy of the State”) and Hans-Hermann Hoppe–have explicated as being libertarianism.

    Gobry’s problem in his article is that to him, libertarianism is just a vague idea of desiring more freedom, instead of a rigorously logical system with definite truth or falsity values on the legitimacy of the entire range of possible human interactions. With Gobry’s nebulous conception, “libertarianism” could be anything, since even the most totalitarian of governments maintain that their subjects are free (e.g., “Arbeit Macht Frei”). Furthermore, libertarianism in the sense of Profs. Rothbard and Hoppe is not only a logically rigorous ethical system, but one which is apodictically true, in the sense that the truth of rigorous libertarianism cannot be denied without assuming its truth in the denial. One who disagrees with rigorous libertarianism is logically wrong in the same degree as one who argues that they cannot argue. For more on this, see my following article: James Redford, “Libertarian Anarchism Is Apodictically Correct”, Social Science Research Network, Dec. 15, 2011, doi:10.2139/ssrn.1972733.

    Nor, contrary to what Gobry states, is the United States a free country. Currently the US government maintains that it can kill and indefinitely imprison anyone anywhere in the world based upon nothing more than the US president’s say-so, including US citizens arrested on US soil. And the US government maintains it can do all of this in secret. So no such thing as a human right exists in the US vis-à-vis the US government. Moreover, the US has the highest prisoner population of any country in the entire world. This is both in terms of absolute numbers, as well as on a per capita basis (see Roy Walmsley, “World Prison Population List (ninth edition)”, International Centre for Prison Studies [King's College London--School of Law], May 2011). Many of these US prisons and jails are hellish torture-pits where boys and men are gang-raped without condoms for years and decades on end, and where mutilation and death is an ever-present reality.

    Moreover, the US government routinely mass-murders is own subjects in staged terrorist attacks in order to have a pretext for usurping ever more power, such as with the 9/11 attacks, the Gulf of Tonkin incident, the Pearl Harbor attack, etc. Regarding the US government’s Gulf of Tonkin false-flag operation, some 58,000 US citizens died in the Vietnam War which directly resulted from said false-flag. This was nothing less than mass-murder by the US government against these US citizens, since their deaths were the result of malice aforethought by the US government: the US president and the US’s highest military leaders involved in staging this false-flag operation cannot coherently claim that they are not responsible for these US citizens’ deaths, no more than one who throws a person into a lion’s den can veridically claim innocence in the victim’s resulting death. Such an abuser is fully guilty of murder.

    For a much deeper examination into the aforesaid three US government-staged pretext-attacks, see Sec. 8.2.1 of my following article, in particular pp. 70-86: James Redford, “The Physics of God and the Quantum Gravity Theory of Everything”, Social Science Research Network, Sept. 10, 2012 (orig. pub. Dec. 19, 2011), doi:10.2139/ssrn.1974708. This article concerns physicist and mathematician Prof. Frank J. Tipler’s Omega Point cosmology and the Feynman-DeWitt-Weinberg quantum gravity/Standard Model Theory of Everything; however, it also analyzes the societal implications of said, particularly the implications of the exponential advancement of technology and hence also the coming radical life-extension technologies (i.e., transhumanism) in light of a world dominated by a callous oligarchy.

  4. jeannie queenie says:

    September 11th, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    Apparently the usurper decided back in January that women should serve on the front lines…natch, that goes along with the cowardice in spades so self evident in this admin. What a bunch of pansies/woosies to hide behind women’s skirts…and further to have no feeling whatsoever to protect women and children. Hell that puts us in the same camp as the moe mental misfits who have no compunction to NOT PROTECT either.

  5. Richie says:

    September 13th, 2013 at 4:52 pm

    We had to enslave them to keep them free.

  6. Richie says:

    September 13th, 2013 at 4:58 pm

    This is great:

    Commenter: “Threatening to hurt people in order to force them to do your bidding is called slavery.”

    Author of the piece: “No, that’s really not what it’s called.”

    Then what is his twisted definition of slavery?

  7. Richie says:

    September 14th, 2013 at 9:13 am

    The author of the piece, in the comments section of an article that gives a response, gives us this gem:

    “And I will also not that I am not a libertarian, nor am I affiliated with the Cato Institute.”

    So, he is not a libertarian, but he argues the libertarian case for slavery. Unbelievable.

  8. John says:

    September 25th, 2013 at 8:31 am

    Switzerland’s mandatory military service has kept a small population well armed and dangerous, however, the topography of the Alps is also their protector. We have two huge bodies of water to help defend us, but we also have idiot handlers that are constantly creating excuses to cross the Atlantic or Pacific to meddle in other peoples affairs.

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