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		<title>By: cousin lucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>cousin lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 01:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is probably my old age but I do not trust any business that is always hiring new employees at the lowest pay rate. Here in New york City these &quot; new hires &quot; are notorious for &quot; selling &quot; your name, social security number, address, and account numbers to anyone willing to pay them!!

Like my late uncle always said  &quot; Never Leave All Of Your Money In One Place &quot; !!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is probably my old age but I do not trust any business that is always hiring new employees at the lowest pay rate. Here in New york City these &#8221; new hires &#8221; are notorious for &#8221; selling &#8221; your name, social security number, address, and account numbers to anyone willing to pay them!!</p>
<p>Like my late uncle always said  &#8221; Never Leave All Of Your Money In One Place &#8221; !!!</p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie Queenie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie Queenie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a more serious note than the aforesaid laughable Barney, I pass along this piece by Linda Goin from Buy &amp; Hold, one of my brokers. This is a terrific little brokerage where you can buy and sell stocks at very low prices..been with them for a while, and I recommend them for those who often trade. You have a choice of windows to trade in at a much reduced cost...or you can trade anytime for as many times as you want in a month for only $14.99. Either way, it&#039;s a no brainer.  I also love their daily and weekly writers who offer great tips. This one Linda has written this week was right up my alley, for two weeks ago, I decided to leave my bank for a credit union. Was fed up with the lousy service and that recent incident whereby they charged me $75 in fees for holding three checks I deposited even though I had money to cover them. Although I did not pay that $75 for their stupid regulations, that did it for me. Between the scam games banks are playing now and the even stinkier attitudes prevailing, I have taken my little red wagon elsewhere. Back to the topic...Linda&#039;s article this week is entitled, TIME TO DIVORCE MY BANK. Some good thoughts in this well written piece by her which can be read at this url...
....http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/mom/linda/2010/mom398.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a more serious note than the aforesaid laughable Barney, I pass along this piece by Linda Goin from Buy &amp; Hold, one of my brokers. This is a terrific little brokerage where you can buy and sell stocks at very low prices..been with them for a while, and I recommend them for those who often trade. You have a choice of windows to trade in at a much reduced cost&#8230;or you can trade anytime for as many times as you want in a month for only $14.99. Either way, it&#8217;s a no brainer.  I also love their daily and weekly writers who offer great tips. This one Linda has written this week was right up my alley, for two weeks ago, I decided to leave my bank for a credit union. Was fed up with the lousy service and that recent incident whereby they charged me $75 in fees for holding three checks I deposited even though I had money to cover them. Although I did not pay that $75 for their stupid regulations, that did it for me. Between the scam games banks are playing now and the even stinkier attitudes prevailing, I have taken my little red wagon elsewhere. Back to the topic&#8230;Linda&#8217;s article this week is entitled, TIME TO DIVORCE MY BANK. Some good thoughts in this well written piece by her which can be read at this url&#8230;<br />
&#8230;.<a href="http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/mom/linda/2010/mom398.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.buyandhold.com/bh/en/education/mom/linda/2010/mom398.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jeannie Queenie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeannie Queenie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Feb 2010 04:42:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is how the state destroys your banking relationship in this video. Just watch Barney the Banking Queen and you will understand just why we are in a world of hurt. Althought this video is named Barney the Banking Queen, it might as well be Banking Queer.
At any rate, you&#039;ll be rolling on the floor watching this one at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oqD5z96HEg&amp;feature=related



















&quot;Banking Queen&quot; - a Live Performance by Barney Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is how the state destroys your banking relationship in this video. Just watch Barney the Banking Queen and you will understand just why we are in a world of hurt. Althought this video is named Barney the Banking Queen, it might as well be Banking Queer.<br />
At any rate, you&#8217;ll be rolling on the floor watching this one at<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oqD5z96HEg&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oqD5z96HEg&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Banking Queen&#8221; &#8211; a Live Performance by Barney Frank</p>
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		<title>By: blackseabrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackseabrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 11:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I travel to Ukraine as often as possible...Odessa on the Black Sea is my second home.  To obtain local currency via cash,  one needs to use fresh, clean and very new US Federal Reserve Notes, preferably $100 denomination.  Obtaining these in the US can be a challenge.  If I want my banks(I bank with two different small local banks) to order them from the counterfeiting Federal Reserve, I can expect a three-month delay before they are delivered.  We&#039;re not talking about much money.....less than $5000.  Interestingly enough, I can obtain US dollars in Ukraine faster than this and it&#039;s not an easy process.

Most of the time, I am working with familiar tellers or bank employees.  But when I get a new one I get the same treatment you described.  If I&#039;m in a pissy mood I&#039;ll make some comment like Ukraine has the best drugs money can buy or I&#039;m over there to buy a sex-slave.  Whatever I can do to shock them after they&#039;ve ran to their supervisor to ask about a suspicious &#039;cash&#039; transaction.  Then I tell them it&#039;s none of their damn business as it&#039;s my money and if they are going to work in the banking industry they should understand that deposits belong to the customer.  Furthermore, just because of 9/11 I did not forfeit my rights and property to the US government, the unconstitutional Patriot Act be damned.  I&#039;ve got more than a few stunned looks from the young tellers, which are inevitably young women who have never thought about &#039;rights&#039; and &#039;property&#039; much less challenged over the issue.

Also, in the late summer 2008, my banks began having a supervisor sign off for me to cash my paycheck, which was around $4000 and always exchanged for cash, which I prefer to keep as I&#039;ve had the IRS steal $4000 from me (2005) when my bank account apparently got to large for them.  Not only was the supervisor approval required, but to obtain cash, I had to physically enter the bank....the drive-thru option with my driver&#039;s license as an ID was not OK....unless I just wanted to deposit the check of course.  I suppose this could have been the banks themselves but curiously enough, both banks adopted this policy at the same time so I suspect some federal stranglehold regulation was involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I travel to Ukraine as often as possible&#8230;Odessa on the Black Sea is my second home.  To obtain local currency via cash,  one needs to use fresh, clean and very new US Federal Reserve Notes, preferably $100 denomination.  Obtaining these in the US can be a challenge.  If I want my banks(I bank with two different small local banks) to order them from the counterfeiting Federal Reserve, I can expect a three-month delay before they are delivered.  We&#8217;re not talking about much money&#8230;..less than $5000.  Interestingly enough, I can obtain US dollars in Ukraine faster than this and it&#8217;s not an easy process.</p>
<p>Most of the time, I am working with familiar tellers or bank employees.  But when I get a new one I get the same treatment you described.  If I&#8217;m in a pissy mood I&#8217;ll make some comment like Ukraine has the best drugs money can buy or I&#8217;m over there to buy a sex-slave.  Whatever I can do to shock them after they&#8217;ve ran to their supervisor to ask about a suspicious &#8216;cash&#8217; transaction.  Then I tell them it&#8217;s none of their damn business as it&#8217;s my money and if they are going to work in the banking industry they should understand that deposits belong to the customer.  Furthermore, just because of 9/11 I did not forfeit my rights and property to the US government, the unconstitutional Patriot Act be damned.  I&#8217;ve got more than a few stunned looks from the young tellers, which are inevitably young women who have never thought about &#8216;rights&#8217; and &#8216;property&#8217; much less challenged over the issue.</p>
<p>Also, in the late summer 2008, my banks began having a supervisor sign off for me to cash my paycheck, which was around $4000 and always exchanged for cash, which I prefer to keep as I&#8217;ve had the IRS steal $4000 from me (2005) when my bank account apparently got to large for them.  Not only was the supervisor approval required, but to obtain cash, I had to physically enter the bank&#8230;.the drive-thru option with my driver&#8217;s license as an ID was not OK&#8230;.unless I just wanted to deposit the check of course.  I suppose this could have been the banks themselves but curiously enough, both banks adopted this policy at the same time so I suspect some federal stranglehold regulation was involved.</p>
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		<title>By: liberranter</title>
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		<dc:creator>liberranter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen, I&#039;m really amazed that you were able to establish a relationship with the staff at your CU.  Even the smallest of these institutions normally operates like its big bank competitors, treating employees as fungible commodities to be hired, fired, or transferred on a whim. In fact, I&#039;m pretty well convinced that most banks and CUs of any size actively &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;discourage&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/B&gt; personalized customer service.

I wouldn&#039;t be &lt;B&gt;&lt;I&gt;too&lt;/I&gt;&lt;/B&gt; hard on the rookie teller who processed your transaction.  Assuming that this lady was a 20-something, it&#039;s probably safe to say that she&#039;s never in her life &lt;I&gt;experienced&lt;/I&gt;, let alone practiced anything approaching &quot;customer service.&quot;  Her manager, OTOH, should probably have been called on the carpet.  Granted, he and his bosses are thralls of the fedgov&#039;s unconstitutional and intrusive banking laws, but that doesn&#039;t excuse rudeness or substandard service on his or his employees&#039; part.    

All of that said, I still suspect that even without intrusive banking laws to justify their atrocious and customer-unfriendly behavior, the owners of most banks probably would still engage in it anyway.  With the concentration of what little remains of the Amerikan economy into fewer and fewer hands, there are few remaining incentives for practicing good customer service.  As I said in the first paragraph, even the small local banks and CUs seem to be striving to emulate &quot;the big guys&quot; all every conceivable ways, including the worst ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen, I&#8217;m really amazed that you were able to establish a relationship with the staff at your CU.  Even the smallest of these institutions normally operates like its big bank competitors, treating employees as fungible commodities to be hired, fired, or transferred on a whim. In fact, I&#8217;m pretty well convinced that most banks and CUs of any size actively <b><i>discourage</i></b> personalized customer service.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be <b><i>too</i></b> hard on the rookie teller who processed your transaction.  Assuming that this lady was a 20-something, it&#8217;s probably safe to say that she&#8217;s never in her life <i>experienced</i>, let alone practiced anything approaching &#8220;customer service.&#8221;  Her manager, OTOH, should probably have been called on the carpet.  Granted, he and his bosses are thralls of the fedgov&#8217;s unconstitutional and intrusive banking laws, but that doesn&#8217;t excuse rudeness or substandard service on his or his employees&#8217; part.    </p>
<p>All of that said, I still suspect that even without intrusive banking laws to justify their atrocious and customer-unfriendly behavior, the owners of most banks probably would still engage in it anyway.  With the concentration of what little remains of the Amerikan economy into fewer and fewer hands, there are few remaining incentives for practicing good customer service.  As I said in the first paragraph, even the small local banks and CUs seem to be striving to emulate &#8220;the big guys&#8221; all every conceivable ways, including the worst ones.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karen, my friend had a similar expeience when he tried to close a bank account after moving to San Antonio. When he came back a year after moving he went to the bank to withdraw his funds and close his account. This brought up nosey questions from the teller asking him why he had moved and why he needed the money withdrawn; she even asked him what new employment he had! When he answered her questions vaguely, she became perturbed and even more aggressive in her questioning. He eventually was able to close his account, but when he moved back he never did business with the bank again. All of this was over $1200!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen, my friend had a similar expeience when he tried to close a bank account after moving to San Antonio. When he came back a year after moving he went to the bank to withdraw his funds and close his account. This brought up nosey questions from the teller asking him why he had moved and why he needed the money withdrawn; she even asked him what new employment he had! When he answered her questions vaguely, she became perturbed and even more aggressive in her questioning. He eventually was able to close his account, but when he moved back he never did business with the bank again. All of this was over $1200!</p>
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		<title>By: M. Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>M. Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 17:27:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let em watch a training film, and any minimum wage employee transforms into an instant potentate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let em watch a training film, and any minimum wage employee transforms into an instant potentate.</p>
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		<title>By: S.B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is terrible! Especially considering you&#039;ve been a customer there since you were 5.
I guess large bills would be less suspicious? Ha! Those busy bodies have nothing else to do but nose around. You just gave them something to talk about for the next 5 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is terrible! Especially considering you&#8217;ve been a customer there since you were 5.<br />
I guess large bills would be less suspicious? Ha! Those busy bodies have nothing else to do but nose around. You just gave them something to talk about for the next 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one that kills me is the rule that only allows you to make 6 transfers out of your savings account in one month.  I find this ridiculous as well, All of my accounts are connected and I like to put my bill money in my savings account and then transfer the money once the bill is due.  however, I had to stop doing that as I forgot about a bill (I didn&#039;t put it on my web bill pay) and needed to make a quick payment and was forced to send in a check as I wasn&#039;t allowed to make any more transactions for the rest of the month, as I had already made my allotment of 6.  Never mind that most were for a couple hundred bucks at a time.
The whole thing is very irritating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one that kills me is the rule that only allows you to make 6 transfers out of your savings account in one month.  I find this ridiculous as well, All of my accounts are connected and I like to put my bill money in my savings account and then transfer the money once the bill is due.  however, I had to stop doing that as I forgot about a bill (I didn&#8217;t put it on my web bill pay) and needed to make a quick payment and was forced to send in a check as I wasn&#8217;t allowed to make any more transactions for the rest of the month, as I had already made my allotment of 6.  Never mind that most were for a couple hundred bucks at a time.<br />
The whole thing is very irritating.</p>
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