A New Yorker on Detroit

Wednesday, June 20, 2012
Posted in category Detroit

It takes a guy from New York to write a great – and accurate – article about Detroit. So what is the difference between him and all of the other strangers who write shoddy articles about this city, as they repeatedly point to the same old ruin porn? He actually took the time to come here and visit. Imagine that – being informed about a subject before you comment on it. Max Gross captures this city perfectly, especially with his comments that being downtown is like living in a small town. Thanks to the city’s inept and truant government, the free market is flourishing here, in spots, while a slowly creeping pattern of quasi-anarchy is attracting some very bright and talented people from all over the world.

Photo of Detroit's Renaissance Center (with DroidX cell phone), by Karen DeCoster

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10 Responses to A New Yorker on Detroit

  1. jeannie queenie says:

    June 20th, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    Gorgeous skyline of buildings in Detroit, but those tall buildings actually overshadow the other reality of Detroit, known as the armpit of the country for too long.

    From a Detroit paper from Feb of this year, the other reality is the sixty years plus problem of the single mom phenom, and the total drag on the rest of Detroiters who have to pony up for ignorance, entitlement attitudes, laziness and a rich streak of irresponsiblity.
    With o bummer at the helm,that will only continue as informed folks see the big picture.

    “We’ve got a baby problem in Michigan. Too many babies are born to immature parents who don’t have the skills to raise them, too many are delivered by poor women who can’t afford them, and too many are fathered by sorry layabouts who spread their seed like dandelions and then wander away from the consequences.

    Michigan’s social problems and the HUGH COSTS attached to them won’t recede until reproductive responsibility is the norm.

    Last year, 43 percent of the babies born in Michigan were to single mothers. And even though Medicaid pays for birth control, half of the babies born here were to mothers on welfare. Eighteen percent were born to teenagers who already had at least one child. And nearly 1-in-5 new babies had mothers with no high school diploma.

    In Michigan, poverty is as much a cultural problem as it is an economic one.

    I spoke with an educator who is dealing with a single mother, mid-30s, with 12 children and a 13th on the way. The kids have an assortment of fathers with one thing in common — none married their mother. This woman’s womb is a poverty factory.

    It wouldn’t matter if Michigan’s economy were bursting with JOBS, the woman and her children would still be poor.

    Who’s supporting these kids? If you’re a taxpayer, YOU ARE. The roughly 45,000 children a year born onto the welfare rolls is a major reason Medicaid will consume 25 percent of next year’s budget.

    Those kids are more likely to grow up to be a strain on Corrections spending or welfare recipients themselves. And they’ll drain money from the schools and universities that could help break this cycle.

    From The Detroit News:


    To add insult to injury I read that these mental and moral misfits have gone so far as to sue when they don’t get all the goodies that they fill entitled to from the largesse of Mr and Mrs Detroiter who actually work for a living…talk about redistribution of wealth. If I still lived in Detroit I would be ranting 24/7 on this big joke on all of Detroit, especially seeing as Dearborn has a whole new set of Parasites looking to hop on the welfare weeny
    train. You can have all the pretty buildings that you want, but when the streets aren’t safe to walk, you are paying for the food of the guy next store, and you read more and more of how the muslims want to enslave the blacks, what can I say. The blacks are doing it to themselves now, at least those who refuse to grow up..and do while one sees a woman’s womb as a factory to poverty, the other guys coming in with 3,4, 5 wives with kids and jumping on the welfare wagon, does not
    bode well for Michigan at all.

  2. M. Terry says:

    June 21st, 2012 at 6:09 pm

    Looks a lot like the same problems in the rest of the country, Jeannie.

  3. David says:

    June 23rd, 2012 at 3:06 am

    jeannie queenie,

    I’m sure neither of us want to get into a prolonged internet debate, but I’ll quickly make a couple of somewhat harsh replies to your post (I didn’t read the article the original post linked to).

    1. I don’t want to seek out the stats right now, but the much-hated “welfare” for single moms and the like represents a tiny, tiny fraction of taxes. So if you’re enraged that, I don’t know, a poor woman with three kids gets her rent covered every month, then you should have a thousand-times as much rage for the government programs (like, for instance, 99% of DoD contracts) which cost a thousand times as much money. So you have a misapplication of your self-righteous finger wagging.

    2. You expressed outrage that other people are procreating (as did the mainstream media article you linked to, from a supposedly “conservative” paper). To be blunt: this is none of your business. If YOU want to be barren and childless….that’s YOUR business, and YOUR choice. But you don’t have the right to demand that the government go in and sterilize or force abortions on others because you have some fantasy of the government concocting a Master Race.

    I’ll never in a million years understand all you people complaining about how “There’s too many people!” In the first place, you obviously don’t understand basic economics: more people is better for civilization. In the second place, even if that were somehow true….so what? It’s none of your business. Sterilize YOURSELF if you want to. Commit suicide if you want to take it that far. (Don’t actually do that; life is sacred.) But you have zero right whatsoever to assault other people’s bodies (let’s not be coy: you mean black people) to further your fantasy of a Master Race.

    3. I don’t know if you recognize the irony that this blog and LRC both are probably half dedicated to mocking the mainstream media and their sociopathic agendas….and then you cite that same mainstream media to advocate your dream of government-enforced sterilization.

    Bottom line: Worry about yourself. I assume you’re barren and childless and a Darwinian dead end. That’s fine. That’s your business. Keep minding it and stop sticking your face in other people’s business and private lives. If you’re so outraged about welfare, then apply that outrage where it’s actually appropriate, and that’s NOT at the poor black women you want to assault.

  4. jeannie queenie says:

    June 26th, 2012 at 1:20 am

    @David….wow, your rant above bears no resemblance to me or what I think. You did assume much which means you made an ass u me..an ass of me and you.

    Your stupid and senseless rant speaking of what you know not of reveals a small mind incapable of critical thinking. For starters, mr light bulb/dim at that, I am not sterile you a–hole…I have had seven pregnancies in 11 years many years ago, two were miscarriages. All my offspring have turned out beyond my wildest dreams. All are successful, hardworking and fabulous parents with their own families. And guess what David, I did it all with an albatross around my neck and never in my wildest dreams would I have stooped so low as to think the govt, i.e., my neighbors should in any way pay me, support me or do it for me via tax dollars.

    Dim David, don’t you think you sound a tad stupid for putting words in my mouth. Dumb crap like ‘you are for forced abortion…or you dream of govt enforced sterilization…man, are you nucking futz…the last place any govt should be is in any bedroom or a woman’s body..are you smoking a few bowls before you let your half cocked/coked crystal balling pour out? How you can make a leap from what I actually said, to what you WISH I had said is beyond me. Tell me, fem boy, are you one of those limp liberals here in New England?

    I simply was making the point that the single mom phenom is wreaking havoc on children and families. Only a twit like yourself would say that fathers are not necessary for kids to grow up with. Or maybe you are one of the new breed that thinks it is okay to soak it on saturday night, and if she gets pregnant than it is her problem and the neighbors via taxes. Get a grip man, the family is the foundation of any society. Destroy that foundation and you end up with horror stories, such as the ones you propose. Our culture and family life has eroded to the nth degree, and in its stead a bunch of weenies who sound just like you. Guys who believe it’s okay to spread their seed and let the state pay for your momentary pleasure. As for your simpleton thinking that I referenced blacks, again you are nuckin futz.. just as many white girls get into trouble and look to a baby to provide them with love…and to a gov’t to give them spending money to play house as fake mothers.

    In short, you advocate that girls who are no more equipped to parent than the man in the moon should not only be subsidized but even more praised for the simple act of spreading her legs for some mental midget looking for a little magic. Have you no clue as to who the majority of men are that end up in prison, fool? Guys with no fathers, and moms who have no control over sons in their teens. Why you would extoll in your unicorn mind that this is a good thing only shows what fairyland you are living in.
    Frankly you sound like a freakin idiot when you espouse the BS that welfare should be welcomed by me. It’s like this doofus…I kept my legs shut until it was time to get married..never in my life would I have felt I can do what I want and have someone else pick up the tab. The only jerks who believe that crap are like you..guys who want to be totally irresponsible and leave a gal in the lurch and beholden to some govt for survival. You must have little to offer or have little belief in yourself to think that a govt must buoy you up and be a nanny. I suggest you take that three year old thumb out of your mouth and grow up and be responsible. For your added info, not only did I raise five fantastic children, but I have twelve grandchildren all at the top of their classes, all talented, bright, loving and caring for others. So your pisspour crystal ball was surely clouded when you formed your twisted turban turd talk.

    A culture that is saturated with sexual overtones, an ersatz educational system that teaches kids how to put cucumbers on condoms and how 22 gays can screw off in a bathhouse must be the stance you advocate. It all comes down to this bud…you are no doubt, one of the generations who is so bloody dumb and narcissistic, and feel entitled to have every little whim catered too, including soaking it on saturday night, sort of like bin laden’s idea of a temporary marriage, which in english lexicon, is a one night stand. You can have all the one night stands you want sonny, just don’t be sending me the bill to pay your girl’s rent, her food, utilities, her tuition, her babysitters while she is in school, so that then she can go to work while her kid is brainwashed in the ersatz educational bs scene. Right back into the rinse/repeat cycle that began the whole enchilada to begin with.
    What I just states
    and more is in that new and not improved healthcare plan which only a good commie would approve. David, after reading your rant, all I can say, is grab a piece of toilet paper and wipe off the corners of your mouth for you do have a little bit of that brown stuff in the corners.
    As for your dumb reference to wars/guns, etc, where in the hell did I say I was all for that…again, you made an ASS out of yourself. You cannot get me to say that I love war or want to see any of my eight grandsons be part of it, so stop trying to put words in my mouth…you and you alone show a severe shortage of critical thinking in your assessments.

  5. Mark says:

    June 26th, 2012 at 11:09 am


    1. If you don’t want to bother to seek out the stats, how do you know welfare takes a tiny portion of taxes? 2. If people are procreating and I have to support their kids, then it is my business. By having my money taken away in taxes to support others children, that then leaves me with less money to have my own children with. So, not only am I supporting someone else’s kids, by taking my money the government is forcing me to have fewer children than I might want and could otherwise afford. 3. You don’t recognize the irony that, while you preach minding one’s own business, you are the one wanting to get involved in other people’s business by advocating taking their hard earned money away from them and giving it to worthless parasites.

  6. jeannie queenie says:

    June 26th, 2012 at 7:15 pm


    Right on with ‘worthless parasites”. I recently was involved in a debate/discussion of that horrific healthcare plan pushed by ms pothead, Pelosi..you know the one idiot who said, “Just pass the damn thing and then you will find out what is in it”. Is that any diff than making a crap sandwich, and telling the person, “just take a bite, and then you will know what is in it”. These people are from another planet, and from what I’ve seen though most liberals espouse this faux love for mankind, when it comes down to crunch time you never see any of them lend A PERSONAL HAND TO ANYONE TRULY NEEDING HELP. So of course, it is easy to steal/take other’s money and think you are saving the world…it’s all crap, pure and simple. THe only way the world is saved is through one person at a time. Back to the discussion with someone recently. THis person actually had the gall to tell me that there is nothing wrong with govt panels who would decide who gets to live or die, and further, if one had to choose between a crack/whore mom with six kids by six diff daddies, or a grandmother, that obviously the grandmother should just die or have her life taken by brainless govt boards. The lack of humanity in thinking such as David’s is really bizarre. Methinks he had probably never treasured life so much as to give of himself to anyone who truly needed help. If he can match my volunteer work over the years, then David and I can talk. So David, have you ever spent time in a Catholic home for unwed mothers, ages 12 to 19…girls with swelling stomachs 5 to 9 months along..girls that were raped by fathers, brothers, uncles, not just once, but twice, 3 and 4 times. Then forced to give birth and turn the baby over to the church so that they church can make ten grand on each adoptee? Have you ever dealt with boat people from Nam..those who wanted to learn the language in their new country, the US?..Have you ever taught the illiterate how to read? Did you ever work in an orphanage and have the kids become so attached to you that they called you mommy every tuesday night when you visited? Did you ever start a St Vincent second hand shop in an area of economic decline/upper peninsula of MI?

    If you can say David, that you love life so much that you willingly share yours with others, you then have a right to rant, but until you can show that you are a mature man, I suggest you STFU. You are totally clueless and further, a commie with your twisted thinking that you have a right to go into my wallet and decide that I should fork over my hard earned monies. Add to that this salient fact, you simpleton, unless you have been a woman who has had to work miracles on a slim budget and with a 200 pound baby holding her down as she cares for five real babies, I suggest you not only shut up, but sit down and realize you have no business talking for the opposite sex.

  7. M. Terry says:

    June 27th, 2012 at 12:13 am


    One can argue about how much, or how little, theft it takes to support whatever bad government program.

    I’ve seen a tenant – the dad a felon on probation – the mom a walking blowjob, who, unfortunately, as a couple, mindlessly spawned several unfortunate offspring, playing the system for all it’s worth.

    The kids (THANKFULLY!!) have a television in every room, and all the latest video games they can play, but there’s not a book in the house. Probably because neither dad or mom can read.

    My wife teaches English. She reaches a lot of students, and makes a big difference.

    But the ones that are impossible are typically the ones on “free lunch” programs, (who toss anything worth eating ’cause it’s free – ya know) and whose parents use the school system solely as a cheap babysitter for as long as they can.

    My brother has two children. Both read at levels way exceeding their age. The difference is, they reproduced carefully – not as a sperm donor and sperm receptacle. The parents read to the girls every night. The girls don’t watch TV for a living. Consequently, they are active, inquisitive, and have two dedicated parents participating in their development. They’re way above their age level at school.

    I won’t try to paraphrase Jeannie, but if I tried to sum up what I got from her original post it is this: It’s easy to procreate. It takes no thought or planning. When one discovers there’s money to be made by acting as a sperm receptacle, and one has no interest in actually raising children -as opposed to receiving a paycheck, it can’t be a good thing – either for the children, or for the taxpayers, who are, under threat, duress and coercion, paying to raise the next generation of prison inhabitants.

    People often opine that if schools in poorer areas were funded like the ones in places with well-to-do parents, the students would be more successful. IMO, that’s a load. It’s the parents who make the difference.
    The ones who actually procreate according to a plan – not in order to obtain government payola on a reproductive basis – are the ones with bright, cared for, and intelligent children.

    IMO, it’s easy to procreate. It’s not easy to actually properly raise a child. When I was younger, I was eager to breed, and spent much time in the attempt. However, I wasn’t eager to procreate, and thus spawned no unwanted children.

    I have to say, that you were doing OK in your form of argument until you went off on the “barren woman” assault. You lost me there. Many women choose not to reproduce, as do many men. I’d bet that many women who found themselves pregnant and with no means of support, and who discovered that it could be a gravy-train then continued to reproduce. Why not? It’s easier than working.

    In the county in which I live, the percentage of unwed mothers outstrips the national average by a large percentage.

    I’ve seen the people who are reproducing potential hooligans. I have no children – so, according to your argument, my wife is “barren,” and I’m shooting blanks, and should have no judgment about those who spawn as a result of simply fucking everything in sight.

    If, in fact, money wasn’t extracted from me to pay for the spawn of the mindless procreators, I’d have no dog in that fight. I should probably mention that the people in this county, who mindlessly produce offspring in order to obtain goon-extracted money, are mostly Caucasian. So, at least I’m an equal opportunity “hater.”

    But with a gun to my head to “pay up,” I, and others, like Jeannie, have a right to complain without being categorized a bitter barren creatures.

    If, and when, you and other like-minded people decide to pony up for “my fair share” to pay for the spawn of which I’m speaking, I’ll gratefully STFU. Incidentally, that payment will also have to cover incarceration costs when these children become adults.

  8. M. Terry says:

    June 27th, 2012 at 12:28 am

    OK – Another thought regarding “forced sterilization.” Did you know that in some government housing projects the occupants sign a contract that they won’t keep guns on the premises? At first glance, it might appear as a 2nd Amendment infringement. But it’s not. They can choose to live elsewhere.
    Likewise, because it’s unlikely that the government won’t stop funding welfare, I’d like to have a say in the matter.

    That is, the person whose child I’m raising with my tax dollars agrees to a Norplant type of birth-control device while the mother’s on taxpayer dole.

    They have a choice. It’s not sterilization. They simply agree to NOT reproduce while on any form of welfare.

    Is that wrong?

  9. David says:

    June 27th, 2012 at 4:42 am

    (I knew I didn’t wanna get in another stupid internet debate.)

    First off, I don’t know what problems the dudes in your life might have (being around you might be one of them), but please don’t project their “limp, fem” tendencies onto me. (As far as I can tell, impotence seems to be a trait of the dudes who posture like they’re tough guys, which is why you see Viagara commercials on Fox News, ESPN, the Military Channel, etc. Well, those guys and whatever dudes are in your life.)

    You mostly carried on with a bunch of personal anecdotes in there and such….which attempted to bolster your original argument that the government should control procreation to foster a master race and that there are too many people. I still disagree with both of those claims, and won’t ever change my mind because the sanctity of life is my core moral value, and that’s closely followed by my belief that the government is evil 97.2% of the time. So the idea that the government should should “control” the population in any way, shape, or form is just not gonna work for me.

  10. jeannie queenie says:

    June 29th, 2012 at 12:26 am

    @david, if at once you can’t succeed, try, try again, that is try sounding like a bigger moron the second time. If you are referring to me and dudes in my life, once again, you assume something very stupid. I have no dudes in my life…I referred to you as possibly a limp fem new england dude as you manifest the liberal loony mindset here in the east…just like them, you appear to be in whole hearted agreement of redistributing the wealth, i.e. picking my pocket for your supposed love of life which you have given no indication that you have even put into practice..that too, is another liberal trait. That is, feigning great concern for life, yet at crunch time not giving a fig on any personal level. It is most obvious that you intentionally veered from not only my awesome attitude on life…not just giving life and caring for it, but in addition, aiding others who needed help, as I volunteered much time/energy on their behalf. I would hope you know what volunteerism is David. In fact, for the life of me, I have no idea of why you even read Karen’s blog…you put yourself up as some faux liberal, but decry volunteerism by bringing up sht talk about dudes…again, this is your deluded mind. The only dude in my life is the most fantastic man I have ever met, and I dare say, not in a million years could you touch him with a ten foot pole in terms of real love, courage and being on a war field to save the sorry ass likes of you who pretend to be lovers of mankind. If you can make the claim that you have bronze and silver medals and served four tours of duty in Nam..if you can make the claim that you spent CIA time years ago fighting a crap scene in Afghanistan and other god forsaken places, but still managed to keep your head on straight and go onto form businesses and supply many people with jobs, then you are a match for him. But from the sounds of it David, the best you can do is make up sht and refuse to be challanged in any way, shape or form…again, like liberals always do..and the libs in the east are limp fem guys as I have observed.
    Terry above says something about shooting blanks, but he comes nowhere close to your shooting blanks from a mind that says one thing and does another. So what is your problem David that you refuse to be challenged? I told you where I am coming from, but you still have a strong need to tell me it’s not fair for me to be honest. So once again, all I can do is show you the respect that you want. When you act and sound like a dickhead, I will respect that by treating you like that which you are!

    When you introduce sht like you do here that not one person on this thread has even mentioned, then you prove that you are totally incapable of understanding either Terry, Mark, or myself. You say this here….”the idea that the government should should “control” the population in any way, shape, or form is just not gonna work for me.” Again, who the hell said anything about govt controlling any population..not one person on this thread except you…WHAT SHOULD BE CONTROLLED YOU NUT, IS PEOPLE CONTROLLING OR MASTERING THEIR OWN INSTINCTS OR SEXUAL FEELINGS. Are you sure David, you aren’t really a muslim who feigns a love of mankind all the meanwhile wanting to live off the largesse of those more superior to you..and always of course, expecting that love to be practiced ONLY BE WOMEN WHO YOU THEN CAN KICK AROUND 24/7?

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